DAILY CATHOLIC     MONDAY     November 8, 1999     vol. 10, no. 211


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      Pat Ludwa, a committed lay Catholic from Cleveland, has been asked to contribute, on a regular basis, a lay person's point of view on the Church today. We have been impressed with his insight and the clear logic he brings to the table from his "view from the pew." In all humility, by his own admission, he feels he has very little to offer, but we're sure you'll agree with us that his viewpoint is exactly what millions of the silent majority of Catholics believe and have been trying to say as well. Pat puts it in words that help all of us better understand and convey to others what the Church teaches and we must believe.

    Today Pat turns temporary gameshow host in asking for the identity of the true Vatican II, but, as he illustrates, it is no game when it comes to our Faith and the misinformation that has been propagandized by such dissidents as Call to Action and that ilk has done great harm to the faithful. Pat shows that all that the modernists espouse turns to puddy and crumbles in the sands of shallow belief when compared to the solid foundation that Christ has established on His Rock - the Church, headed by His Vicar on earth and regulated through the Magisterium of the Church. In this gameshow it is not a democracy and the clue to winning is called "obedience." The prize is not the American church, but rather the universal Church loyal to all Rome teaches without exception. Anything less and the "game" is over! Pat points out that it is time for the real Vatican II to stand up and be counted...and to bury, once and for all the destructive "spirit of Vatican II" that has haunted us since the late sixties and has just gained more steam as the lies continue to pile on higher and higher and the barn is getting full! That is the gist of Pat's column today, Will the real Vatican II please stand up!

    If you want to send him ideas or feedback, you can reach him at KnightsCross@aol.com

Will the real Vatican II please stand up!

        "Hello, I am Vatican II"

        "No, I am Vatican II"

        "I am Vatican"

        Just like the old television game show, "To Tell the Truth", we have three different views of Vatican II. And just like that game show, only one can be the correct one.

        According to the most popular, and most publicized, view, Vatican II was a break with the old and stagnant traditions of the Church. That one need not follow Church teaching if they feel there are sufficient reasons not to do so. That Vatican II democratized the Church, so that the will of the 'people of God' is the will of God. As Call To Action says:

      "Call To Action is an organization of Catholics based on the teaching of the universal church in the second half of the 20th Century. It is a response to the challenge of the Second Vatican Council, held between 1962 and 1965, for all members to 'scrutinize the signs of the times' and respond in the light of the gospel. The council provided a wake-up call for lay Catholics who had tended to defer initiatives entirely to the clergy."

          "Call to Action (CTA), launched in 1979, is an independent, non-profit organization of over 16,000 laity, religious and clergy who believe the Spirit of God is at work in the whole church, not just in its appointed leaders. We believe the entire Catholic church has the obligation of reading the signs of the times, responding to the needs of the world, and taking initiative in programs of peace and justice.

    • We believe the church should be a model of openness on all levels
    • theologians and Catholic insitutions should be free in their search for the truth
    • laity and clergy should be consulted in the formulation of church doctrine and discipline, especially on human sexuality issues"

        The other view of Vatican II is that it's an invalid Council of the Church. They oppose Call To Action's stance, and seeing it as an attack on the Church, see it as anathema. Essentially, they accept the above view of Vatican II.

        However, the third view is one not often heard, or followed. As Vatican II itself points out.

      "Christ is the Light of nations. Because this is so, this Sacred Synod gathered together in the Holy Spirit eagerly desires, by proclaiming the Gospel to every creature, to bring the light of Christ to all men, a light brightly visible on the countenance of the Church. Since the Church is in Christ like a sacrament or as a sign and instrument both of a very closely knit union with God and of the unity of the whole human race, it desires now to unfold more fully to the faithful of the Church and to the whole world its own inner nature and universal mission. This it intends to do following faithfully the teaching of previous councils. The present-day conditions of the world add greater urgency to this work of the Church so that all men, joined more closely today by various social, technical and cultural ties, might also attain fuller unity in Christ."(Vatican II; Lumen Gentium, Preface.)

        Rather than just a Council for "the teaching of the universal Church in the second half of the 20th Century", Vatican II followed "faithfully the teaching of previous councils", not just the second half of this century. As Pope John XXIII said at the opening of Vatican II: "The greatest concern of the ecumenical council is this: that the sacred deposit of Christian doctrine should be guarded and taught more efficaciously."

        Yet we hear that the "laity and clergy should be consulted in the formulation of church doctrine and discipline, especially on human sexuality issues" Hardly what Pope John XXIII taught.

        We read from the Curran statement (sent to the NY Times, July 30, 1968):

      "It is common teaching in the Church that Catholics may dissent from authoritative, non-infallible teachings of the Magesterium, when sufficient reasons for doing so exist."

        Yet, Vatican II teaches; "This religious submission of mind and will must be shown in a special way to the authentic magisterium of the Roman Pontiff, even when he is not speaking ex cathedra; that is, it must be shown in such a way that his supreme magisterium is acknowledged with reverence, the judgments made by him are sincerely adhered to, according to his manifest mind and will... And this is the infallibility which the Roman Pontiff, the head of the college of bishops, enjoys in virtue of his office, when, as the supreme shepherd and teacher of all the faithful, who confirms his brethren in their faith, by a definitive act he proclaims a doctrine of faith or morals. And therefore his definitions, of themselves, and not from the consent of the Church, are justly styled irreformable, since they are pronounced with the assistance of the Holy Spirit, promised to him in blessed Peter, and therefore they need no approval of others, nor do they allow an appeal to any other judgment." (Vatican II; Lumen Gentium, Chap 3; The Church is Hierarchal, #25)

        So obviously, Vatican II doesn't teach that faithful Catholics are free to dissent from authoritative teachings of the Magisterium. Not even non-infallible ones. In fact, by their own admission, Vatican II figures very little in the make up make up of Call To Action.

        In their list of founding documents, the only Vatican II document sited is Gaudium et Spes (The Church in the Modern World), and they distort that as well.

        "Hence this Second Vatican Council, having probed more profoundly into the mystery of the Church, now addresses itself without hesitation, not only to the sons of the Church and to all who invoke the name of Christ, but to the whole of humanity. For the council yearns to explain to everyone how it conceives of the presence and activity of the Church in the world of today... The council brings to mankind light kindled from the Gospel, and puts at its disposal those saving resources which the Church herself, under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, receives from her Founder. For the human person deserves to be preserved; human society deserves to be renewed. Hence the focal point of our total presentation will be man himself, whole and entire, body and soul, heart and conscience, mind and will." (Gaudium et Spes; Preface)

        Vatican II, then begins by proclaiming the mission of the Church, how that Church is set up and organized, how it worships, etc. then ends how THAT Church is to go out into the world as a light to that world. But Call To Action says no, that all of Vatican II is to be rejected and that Gaudium et Spes says that the Church is to change to suit the world.

        In short, Vatican II was a Pastoral Council called to ready the Church for times where advancements in science, technology, etc. could (and would) out-pace our ability to answer the morality of those advancements. Rather than rejecting all that went before, Vatican II embraced all the previous Councils and teachings of the Church.

        But the fact Vatican II is neglected in groups like Call to Action shouldn't come as a surprise. The rest of their 'founding documents' don't even mention any other Council of the Church:

      "Rosemary Radford Ruether: Church as Community Talk given at Wisconsin Call To Action meeting, May 1998

      Edwina Gateley: Rediscovering and Claiming the Feminine Soul Reprint excerpted from one of Edwina's tapes, March 1994

      Chung Hyun-Kyung: Welcome the Spirit: Hear Her Cries Talk given at World Council of Churches Assembly in Canberra, Australia, February 1991

      Miriam Therese MacGillis: Living the New Story An interview with Miriam Therese MacGillis which appeared in In Context - a Quarterly of Humane Sustainable Culture, February, 1991

      Matthew Fox: Creation Spirituality: Renewing Ourselves, Our Planet, and Our Church First talk given by Matthew Fox after his year of silence imposed by the Vatican - presented at a special Call To Action Conference focusing on Creation Spirituality in February, 1990

          Charles Curran: Catholic Ethics in Tension: Sexuality and Social Justice Talk given at Call To Action conference, November 1987

          Rembert Weakland, OSB: Living the Gospel in an Affluent Society Talk given at Call To Action conference, November 1986

          Rosemary Ruether: Crises and Challenges of Catholicism Today Talk given at Call To Action Conference, November, 1985

          Bryan Hehir: American Catholics and Public Policy Talk given at Call To Action Conference, November 1984

          Gregory Baum: The Church Since Vatican II: Prophetic Sign of Hope Talk given at Call To Action Conference, November 1982

          Hans Kung: The Church From Above and the Church from Below Talk given at Call To Action Conference, November 1981

          Bill Callahan: Alive and Believing for the 1980's Talk given at a special Call To Action gathering, April 1980"

        A virtual who's who of dissent. A 'new' man-made magisterium for a new man-made church.

        Vatican II didn't make being a Catholic easier, rather, it made it harder. No longer would the Church hold our hands, we had to stand on our own.

        In 1950 there were approximately 60,000 priests in the U.S. with another 25,000 seminarians preparing for the priesthood. 75% of married Catholics attended Mass every Sunday, 50% received Communion at least once a month. 85% of single Catholics went to Mass every Sunday and 50% received Communion at least once a month. And college educated Catholics were the most faithful of all. Today, thanks to the 'spirit of Vatican II' (which we have seen has nothing in common with Vatican II) these numbers are dangerously low. Such that we hear about new innovations and entertainments to entice people to Mass, talk of making anyone a priest, or doing away with the priesthood.

        Vatican II, the REAL Vatican II, was a blessing for the Church. A Council arming the faithful Catholic to stand firm in faith amidst the storms of a dark and turbulent world. Enabling the world to be illumined by the light of truth, the light of Christ instead of being overcome by the darkness of death and sin.

        When the Church, that is us, finally see behind the facade and embrace the real Vatican II, then the world and the Church will experience a golden age, shining brightly with the light of Christ.

    Pax Christi, Pat

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