The Heavenly Mansions are abuzz that we are able to bring these inspirational and thought-provoking round-table panel discussions of some of the Church's great saints to you. Three more holy saints are about to join our moderator the holy and chaste Joseph. Let us join them.
Saint Joseph: Dear brothers and sisters in Christ, I welcome you to this second charitable discussion. On behalf of the Triune Divinity, I am grateful that you have come here while still remaining in the Fulcrum of Love - the Beatific Vision - to join with me in discussing the continued struggle of Holy Mother Church in these dangerous times on earth.
Today we have with us:
We will continue now with our previous discussion concerning our grave concern over the dismantling of that integral part of the entire Mystical Body of Christ - the Church Militant. As the panel deduced last session, this began over forty years ago on earth, and is gaining momentum early in the new century.
- Saint Mary Magdalene: She who repented of her sinful ways and became so precious to the Lord through her absolute love for God and her persistence when most others abandoned Him.
- Pope Saint Pius V, the 225th keeper of the keys in the succession of Peter. It was Pius V who enforced the reforms of Trent and established the Roman Missal, as well as proclaiming October 7th the Feast of Our Lady of Victory in gratitude for her intercession at Lepanto in 1571.
- And Saint Teresa of Avila, who lived during the same time as Pius V and was an uncompromising crusader for weeding out laxity in the Carmelite orders. She is also an esteemed Doctor of the Church.
Saint Teresa of Avila: Thank you for these discussions, Joseph. I am no stranger to persecution. It appears to us here in Heaven that the persecution of the Roman Catholic Church is not primarily from outside the divine institution of the Mystical Body of Christ, but rather from within.
St. Joseph: A very good point, and one I feel we must discuss as our topic today. Dear Pius, I welcome you to this august assembly. You are a Pope my foster Son is so proud of. I know you were aware of the growing rebellion not only within the Church, but also from without. You defended the True Faith with every fiber of your being, and were greatly persecuted for it, were you not?
Saint Pius V: God gave me an extraordinary gift of being able to see the One True Faith clearly, and to defend this Sacred Deposit of Faith given by Our Lord to His One True Church; It was a time of heretics, coming as it did with the Protestant Reformation of the time. Pope Paul IV made me Grand Inquisitor of the Inquisition. Although through human frailty, this Inquisition did dispose of innocent people, the larger part protected the One True Faith from heretics. The Protestant revolt posed a real threat to the One True Faith. Sadly it still does, because with Vatican Council II, the European Alliance of Cardinals and Bishops from the Tiber, east to the Dutch, Scandinavian and French hierarchy, were determined that the One True Faith must be minimized for the sake of having an ecumenical dialogue with these very Protestants. Vatican Council II has proved to be the greatest rebellion in the Church … a revolt, if you will, that has stripped the Church of all that She stood for, in favor of other false religions.
St. Joseph: Tell us how you see this rebellion, this deconstruction of the Church in favor of a 'unity' among all faiths, dear Mary Magdalene. You knew the Master personally during His earthly sojourn. There were heretics then, of course. How did the Master respond to those who thought they knew better than He?
Saint Mary Magdalene: The Master, Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, went about His Father's business at all times. Yes, He met heretics, He met hypocrites within the Jewish Faith, and He knew betrayal throughout His entire life on earth. Yet, He is Truth and He stood for that Truth, sometimes with His eyes flashing in the face of evil; He warned of the wide path that leads to hell. Vatican Council II barely spoke of hell or Purgatory, simply because the Truth offended the separated brethren of false, schismatic faiths. He healed me of demons. He brought me back from the brink of the abyss.
Today, I see this forty-year revolt not only as the deconstruction of the One True Faith, but also as an alien theology concerning the Mystical Body of Christ. Yes, the entire Mystical Body of Christ works in harmony with Its Head. However, in these grave times, the Church Triumphant - those who are in Heaven - are no longer invoked, and as we have seen from the very documents and words of the Council Fathers at Vatican Council II, the Church Militant is no longer, but is rather the same as the Church Triumphant. Oh, how clever is the fallen angel to have accomplished this through the political and liberal alliances at the Council
St. Pius V: Yes, you are right, Mary. By freeing you of the demons, He showed you the Truth, which is He Himself. Now, that Absolute Truth, defended by so many throughout the centuries, is reduced to a pan-religious ecumenism. Personally, I think it is time for a new Inquisition, particularly among bishops that deny the power of the Holy Father, and blatantly consider themselves as possessing the supreme power of the Vicar of Christ. This equality is nothing more than heresy. We all know that. Yet, the people are blinded because of the sweetness of the lie which was victorious at Vatican Council II. Few there are who today recognize their Crucified Savior and seek to unite themselves with His Most Sacred and Sorrowful Passion.
St. Joseph: Teresa, tell us why the demise of the Church Militant has repercussions for millions of souls, and how the people of this time can recapture the One True Faith? You faced the Inquisition. Are not the faithful today also victims of the new inquisition that formed Vatican Council II and all that has come after it unto the present moment?
St. Teresa of Avila: Were I on earth today, I would fly in the face of this new heresy called ecumenism. I plead each day for the faithful to awaken from their slumber which began with the decrees of this Council II. I would challenge the Magisterium face to face, relying solely upon the Truth. I would challenge those who claim to be the Magisterium today be in concert with the perennial Magisterium, upholding All of the truths, teachings and traditions of Holy Mother Church. If the faithful pray and seek the virtues of wisdom and understanding from the Holy Spirit , they will see clearly the lie that has been perpetrated upon the Roman Catholic Church since the Council. This should stir them to mount a grassroots crusade to recapture the Faith, to persevere and preserve it. I would tell the cardinals, the bishops, priests, and even the Vicar of Christ, that the errors of this Council II have gone far enough. I would never cease to fight for the Faith. The Church needs serious reform back to the traditions and truths.
The reform is necessary if the Church Militant is to find, again, it's proper place in the Mystical Body of Christ. The dismantling of the Church Militant has been slow but steadily in its erosion. This is why the faithful have become indifferent toward the precious gift of the One True Faith. I came face to face with the lukewarmness, even indifferentism, of men and women, who sought to give lip service to the King of Kings, rather than their entire being, heart and soul! The faithful must never obey any erroneous law or decree, even if it bears the title of a "Dogmatic Constitution". In short, I would bombard the Holy Father until he granted me audience. Then…I would not hesitate to call a spade a spade, heresy as heresy, apostasy as apostasy, and so forth.
St. Mary Magdalene: Christ established the Church Militant when he commanded His apostles and disciples to spread the Good News to every nation upon earth. He told them that they would be persecuted, and would give their lives for the True Faith. The Church Militant was born on the Cross. It remains upon the Cross. It cannot be obliterated until the Heavenly Father has said: "Time is no more." Yet, for many of the faithful, there is precious little to remind them of the priceless gift of the One True Faith, as increasingly Holy Mother Church becomes heretical by continuing the false teachings handed down after Vatican Council II. The faithful must wish to wipe the feet of Our Lord with their tears and pleadings. They must desire to be upholders of the Truth, rather than beholding, by their lukewarmness and indifferentism, the auto-destruction of the Faith.
St. Joseph: My beloved spouse Mary - ever-virgin - has been granted the privilege of appearing to her children in order to recall to their minds the Truth, and also the messages she delivered from Rue de Bac, LaSalette, Fatima up until the present. Dear Pius, would you tell us how, if at all, your own time and age differed from the present age, which has felt itself enlightened to alter the Sacred Deposit of Faith toward the end of a false but deadly ecumenism?
St. Pius V: The fallen nature of men, and the wiles of satan have not changed since the Original Sin in the Garden of Eden. As it was in my time, so it is today-the struggle between Truth and the father of lies brings about rebellion in the name of false ideals that pose that masquerade as Theology, Philosophy, and the like. The names have changed. Truth has not nor will it ever change. The 'new' weapons in this combat of Truth versus Lie hide behind the schismatic hierarchy who has adopted a 'new' agenda - one that leads to the abyss. The opposing forces of the supernatural know about this, have plotted this. Because of the weakened ranks of the hierarchy, the faithful have very little to sustain them when they should and must be given sound doctrine and dogma to fight the father of lies.
St. Teresa of Avila: Our time, dear Pius, was one of turmoil, and how much more so today. The entire Sacred Deposit of Faith must be safeguarded, and it must come from the people, for it will not come from the hierarchy. I tell you that the present Magisterium, and its teaching of "tolerance" is nothing more than the lie which was decreed by Vatican Council II. This Council was the "inspiration" of John XXIII. Aiehh, what was he thinking? Even before he called the Council, he already was putting into Church policy the very ideas of Martin Luther and of Marxism. This is truth, and it cannot be denied. All that we fought against even in the 16th century has gradually but surely been embraced; all the heresies of the past have been unleashed through the vehicle of Vatican II. On the surface it would seem harmless, but beneath the purpose so devious and unsuspecting.
St. Joseph: Let us address this aspect of the Council in the light of our topic: The deconstruction of the Church Militant. Pius, you were appointed grand inquisitor by Pope Paul IV in 1557. What was the cause of the Inquisition, Pius? And how do you think this historic fact of the Inquisition translates to today's Roman Catholic Church? Does not this course carry many on the pendulum to false ecumenism away from the One True Faith?
St. Pius V: The historic reasons for the Inquisition were the rise of heretics, schismatics and apostates. It was essential, dear Joseph that the very tenets of the One True Faith, deposited in the Catholic Church by Our Lord, be espoused, and every danger to this One True Faith had to be rooted out. We see the very opposite today - that is, the present Magisterium, following in the footsteps of the Council II, tolerates every type of heretic, apostate, and schismatic to the great endangerment of the One True Faith, which is ever increasingly being apologized for. It nauseates my spirits. I see the suffering of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ bearing down upon His Most Sacred Heart. I agree with Teresa that the faithful must begin a new crusade, a new 'inquisition' in order to quench this fire of altered doctrine.
St. Mary Magdalene: I can speak of this also, for He established His One True Church upon Peter - and He, Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, did not tolerate the heretics. He corrected their errors, and He died through the machinations of the evil one who overtook the minds of His children, leading them to treason against the Truth. As our Beloved Jesus Christ suffered and died for the Truth, so the evil one has worked even harder to bury that Truth, as once lucifer saw Our Lord and Savior buried in the tomb. This is the time of the burial of the Truth.
St. Teresa of Avila: How greatly did the One True Faith, the Roman Catholic Faith, suffer during my time, and of yours, Pius. From every side assault after assault was launched against the Church by the minds of men who believed the lie that they were more enlightened than those to whom Christ gave the power to teach, govern, and defend the One True Faith. It is politics. Politics and lies put Him to death. Politics sought to thwart the Truth during my lifetime, and it remains so today - political expediency and compromise against the Truth; this has nearly buried the reality of the Church Militant.
St. Joseph: As Foster-Father of the Word of God, Mary and I also defended Him Whom the Father had sent. Even then through Herod and others of his mindset, we fled to Egypt to keep the Savior safe, until it was His Time to preach, teach, govern, and establish the New Covenant. We knew politics well. We suffered because of politics. However, never did we waver in our defense of the Truth, Whom we - Mary and I - held in our arms. Tell us, Teresa, what the Lord inspired you to do to overcome the lies that fed into the Protestant Revolution which gave rise to the Inquisition?
St. Teresa of Avila: Joseph, Pius, dear Mary Magdalene, heresy has been present since the fall of man in the Garden of Evil. Holy Mother Church had grown lax in my time. The vigilance of the Vicar of Christ was the only means to defeat the enemy who hid behind every heresy. Today, all the heresies that have ever been hide behind a false notion of 'ecumenism', and therefore, in order to aid this 'false' ecumenism, the demolition of the Church Militant has occurred. Indeed, it is necessary, vital for the enemies of the Church Militant to do this.
St. Pius V: Yes, the ranks have been weakened, the flanks thinned.
St. Teresa of Avila: Exactly. Many souls are being led to the abyss because of the 'political' goals of the present Magisterium, which draws upon the deliberate intent of the European Alliance which overtook and master-minded the Council II, with the consent, knowledge, and will of the Pontiffs- Popes John XXIII, and Paul VI, and, yes, the present Vicar of Christ - Pope John Paul II. The 'solidarity' this present Pontiff seeks is in vain for it will not bear fruit for the sake of One Truth, but for the sake of many half-truths, which always contain the lie of lucifer. He cannot, must not compromise anything.
St. Mary Magdalene: It would, perhaps, be a time when the Inquisition - that is, the upholding of the Sacred Deposit of Faith - might once again bear great fruit for the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. It would assist the Holy Spirit to rekindle in the hearts of the faithful, and in particular the bishops, to defend the Truth instead of seeking to cover it up for the sake of a false "peace" a false notion of the "brotherhood of men," which was the reality of Vatican Council II, was it not?
St. Pius V: Very true, Mary Magdalene. As Supreme Pontiff, I can attest to the heavy cross that His Holiness John Paul II bears today. It is truly a cross being the Supreme Defender of the Truth, when all about you are clamoring for their own viewpoints which are based not on Divine Revelation, but on man's superiority drawn from his pride of intellect. Were it not for Christ, I could never have sustained such a burden.
St. Joseph: Pride - how much pride has taken hold since John XXIII called for the Council, and its on-going theories and practices which have very little to do with the Truth, and more to do with establishing "peace on earth."
St. Teresa of Avila: Those words - "peace on earth to men of good will" - first spoken by the angels at the birth of our Savior, have been misunderstood and deliberately misquoted to "peace on earth and good will to men" in order to do the bidding of the evil one, lucifer, and his legion, who have made full use of these last one hundred years to defeat the Divine Institution of the Church, which is Holy because It's Head is Holy, and how clever has the fallen angel been in using the very words of Scripture to gain entrance into the very sanctuary of the Church. We all know the destruction he has caused to the One True Faith established by our Savior.
St. Joseph: My dear friends, we will end our discussion here, although we have barely touched upon the depth of the subject of the suppression of the Church Militant. We will continue this topic for the benefit of the faithful in our next session. May all the faithful know that the Church Triumphant is always at work for the One True Faith. Yet, without the aid of the faithful, the father of lies will continue his diabolical auto-destruction of the Faith. Please come to any of the discussions we have, for each of us must contribute in order to reawaken in the hearts and minds of the faithful just how much has been lost, how much ground the evil one has gained in the forty years since the preparation for the Council began. Virtue must be restored. Let us pray.